infuriated the obama administration, and rightly so. rose: the fact that the palestinians went ahead to urge that vote. >> there was then economic punishment and the e-1 settlements were set into place. there's a real loss of hope. so the reverse of what dennis ross is talking about has happened. there's an increasingly hopelessness on both sides, even though we're not in the middle of some terrible intifada. >> it's a great paradox by the way. >> it is a great paradox. >> rose: some people say they might be--un, there may be the seeds of a third intifada developing. >> well, look, none knows-- anyone who says it won't happen, it's the kind of thing you could light a match and spark is sent and it's triggered. i would say palestinians paid a terrible price for the second intifada and they have not recovered from it and they're anxious that something could still happen. the fact is both have that memory. the key right now is-- david put his fing or something i think is quite important-- you know, it's not just that the-- that you've had